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| grant_brown |
MY TEAMlol ok here is my crappy teamweavile ice punch night slash brick break and aerial ace then i have electivire eath quake cross chop thunder bolt and ice punch blissy soft boiled seismic toss thunder wave and ice beam these are my only pokemon i know for fact are on my team i use weavile as my opener and blissy as my special wall am looking for suggestions as to what else i should put |
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| Phatkav |
I will give you a more detailed help after. Now I gotta go for lunch, but what you ha ve so far is good. | ||
| grant_brown |
ok, well what time will ya be back? and you goign to sne dme a message or something? | ||
| Phatkav |
I will be back in half an hour.
Don't worry. I will contact you here and on Serebii. |
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| grant_brown |
iight then name on serebii will be grant llike before | ||
| Phatkav |
Well I'm here now.
So got any ideas on who else you want? |
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| grant_brown |
well i wanted a duskinor
and i need sp sweepers cause atm i have 2 phys sweepers electivire and weavile and i need a phys wall lol |
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| Phatkav |
Well let's see
Blissey will be your main Special Wall. Weavile and Electivire will be your physical sweepers. Now you need something to encourage the use of Electric attacks. You can try Gyarados, but then you will have 3 Physical Sweepers. As for a wall, there is Cresselia. There is also Gliscor. Or you can just go with a mixed one like Dusknoir. Now do you really need to go with Electivire or not? because if you do, I can recommend the use of Starmie. |
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| grant_brown |
nah i don't need electivire i am just using him because i honestly don't have any other stong phys sweepers | ||
| grant_brown |
i was trying to get a starmie in the irc but he wouldn't trade me it lol | ||
| Phatkav |
Well how about this
Yanmega + Electivire? Sounds good to me. |
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| grant_brown |
for starmie or in place fo starmie? | ||
| Phatkav |
Well I meant like this
Weavile, Blissey, Electivire, Yanmega Yanmega can draw Electric attacks for Electvire. Blissey is a special wall and Weavile is a physical sweeper. Now we need a physical wall and some other Pokemon. |
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| grant_brown |
i was thinking skarmory? as a phys wall and a set up thing like with spikes and you got a yanmega or look in the irc chat? | ||
| Phatkav |
I got a Yanmega... but it's a hacked one so I don't know if you want it.
Skarmory won't help you that much if you will put it with Yanmega. Because if you add it, then you will have 3 fire weaknesses. |
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| grant_brown |
i'll take it i don't really care lol and yea i guess who else is a phys wall? i don't know that many pokemon lol
ummm snorlaxx he phys or sp wall? |
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| Phatkav |
Snorlax is a tank. It can be mixed wall once you get couple of Curses.
Weezing, Donphon, Gliscor, Skarmory, Tangrowth, Hippowdon, Forretress are all good physical walls. |
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| grant_brown |
well, i could get a weezing or gliscor ? but i need move sets for all these pokes and what do you want for the yanmega? | ||
| Phatkav |
Weezing @ Black Sludge
252 Def/ 252 HP/ 6 Sp. Atk Possible Moves: Pain Split, Will-o-Wisp, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Haze Gliscor @ Leftovers 252 Def/ 252 HP/ 6 Attack Possible Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Aerial Ace, Stealth Rock, Roost, knock Off I don't want anything for that Yanmega. But I can't trade it right now. |
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| grant_brown |
which one would you suggest? and ok let me know when you can trade um how do i get the items like left overs and black sludge
cause i think i would use weezing and after thsi i need a sp sweeper cause i have 2 phys and 1 sp sweeper so one more poke and i have my team |
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| Phatkav |
Well there is Weezing, but the problem is he has trouble walling Dragons, but again you have Weavile and Yanmega who can handle them. I say try to get both. test both and see which one is better.
As for a special sweeper, there is Gengar or a Choice Scarf Porygon-Z. |
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| grant_brown |
i have a porygonz untouched i think so ok i got that one down and i'll try out weezing can i catch him in ruby or just get an ev trained one on serebii?
and i am going to do my math hw so i'll be back i'll message you here and go on serebii and i'll pm you your name going to be [vf] phatkav? |
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| Phatkav |
As of now I'm banned on Serebii. We can chat better on MSN if you have it. Mine is in my profile.
I have a Weezing if you want it. |
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| grant_brown |
yea i have it i added you but i don't know if i did it right mine is grantbrown2@hotmail.com | ||
| grant_brown |
MY TEAM UPDATED lol
Weavile night slash ice punch aerial ace night slash Yanmega air slash bug buzz hiddenpower protect Starmie surf ice beam power gem psychic Blissy ice beam thunder wave softboiled seismic toss Weezing flamethrower w-o-w pain split haze Electivire cross chop thunder shock ice punch earthquake this is my new team updated guys lol all pokes are ev trained comment and help tell me what i should have and if i should substitute their move sets or pokemon |
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| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
almost every1 kno's my team Slobro moves: ice beam, flame thrower, water pulse, zen headbut
Umbreon*Shiny* iron tail, phycic, dark pulse, shadow ball Sharpedo: slash, agility, aqua jet, and avalanche Togekiss: sweet kiss. aura sphere, phycic, air slash Swalot: sludge, toxic, sludge bomb, and amnesia and last but not least Rhyperior: horn drill, hammer arm, stone edge, and earthquake. that ma team for ya |
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| HungryHungryHippo |
Slowbro, unless you're going for the confusion, surf>water pulse. Also, slowbro has way higher spc atk than physical, and psychic has higher accuracy and power than zen headbutt, so unless zen headbutt has a specific reason for being there, ditch it. Also, slowbro does pretty good with slack off, and maybe calm mind. For umbreon, lose shadow ball, its exactly the same as dark pulse, but it does no damage to normal types and doesn't get a STAB bonus. Hehe, shiny 
Sharpedo's pretty fast and has low defences, so avalanche might not be the best thing to put there, because its likely to go first, and if it doesn't, its probably dead. So ice fang is better, if you're going for an ice attack. Togekiss is fine, I think. Swalot: Change out sludge for something(yawn or swallow/spit), sludge bomb is the same or better in every aspect. IMO stockpile is better than amnesia because stockpile helps defend for both special and normal attacks. For Rhyperior, in most battles OHKO moves are banned, so you might want to change horn drill for something else....curse? |
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| HungryHungryHippo |
You seem to have put night slash on 2x for weavile....what's the other move? What's the hidden power of Yanmega? Methinks blissey doesn't need ice beam, Heal bell/aromatherapy is better, but you have to breed for aromatherapy, so get heal bell. That BETTER be thunderbolt on Electrivire...... |
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| grant_brown |
yea sorry for weavile it's night slash ice punch aerial ace and brick break
for blissy i like ice beam it works for me and it's thunderbolt sorry i messed up lol |
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| HungryHungryHippo |
and I'm posting my team here too. I know I posted it in the other thread too, but this one's more active.
Tyranitar@life orb/leftovers(if no heatran) EV 255 atk 255 speed Crunch EQ DD Stone edge Dragonite@ lum berry EV 255 atk 100 def 155 speed DD thunder/fire punch (I change it occasionally) Outrage EQ Heatran @leftovers EV 252 hp Defence and Spc defence for the rest. Firespin (I'm going to replace) Do you guys think dragonpulse, metal sound, or magma storm? Lava plume Earth power Iron head (also going to replace, proly with flash cannon if I get the TM) Torterra@brightpowder or lum berry No idea about EVs going to get another one eventually Wood hammer Crunch EQ Leech seed PorygonZ@brightpowder or life orb 255 Atk and Speed Nasty plot Tri-attack Shadow ball Discharge (Should change, don't know for what...T-bolt or charge beam)Also needs a way to keep steel types from walling...... Last slot....azelf or areodactyl or metagross from survivor.....not sure yet...or gardevoir(no idea about moveset/EVs/item yet). |
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| grant_brown |
hippo you think you could give me some tips?
like who to add or take out? |
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| JoJo |
PowerTrick EV Shuckle can serve as a Physical Sweeper, Special Wall, Special & Physical Wall. |
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| HungryHungryHippo |
I can't really give you any tips...I don't know a thing about any of your pokemon except for electrivire and blissey....
Also, I haven't battled online much, just started this week. If you need to test out hypothetical teams you can use this.... http://shoddybattle.com/downloads If it works there, EV train a real one and use it. |
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| bashmo |
wow strategy to the max. i only try to raise my pkmn, but i need help specializing certain attributes, how do i do it? EV? | ||
| HungryHungryHippo |
Yep, EV and nature breed. | ||
| Phatkav |
Time to give you a movesets makeover. 
Slowbro: Bad bad moveset. Ice Beam is good for Dragon slaying, but honestly Water Pulse? Never ever go with Water Pulse over the superior Surf. Zen Headbutt? Why? You don't really want to face Gengar since his Shadow Ball will hurt you a lot and beside the move sucks. Flamethrower is an optional choice, but again, you can just go with Thunderbolt to go with the normal Boltbeam strategy. There is also Thunder Wave which can help Slowbro a lot, but I will leave that to Togekiss. Also you can try the Calm Mind set too. Suggested final set: Slack Off/Calm Mind/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam Umbreon: No, no, no. Umbreon isn't suppose to attack and should never try to attack. You have couple of options with it such as going with the Wish/Baton Pass set or just the normal Curse one. I say you can probably do good with Wish/Protect/Curse/Payback. You Curse up so Close Combat or physical moves do nothing to you. Then Wish+Protect for guaranteed healing method. Suggest final set: Wish/Protect/Curse/Payback Sharpedo: Hmm. I believe you can go with a Choice Scarf version or Agility+Focus Sash set. I don't really know much about Sharpedo except for the fact that he is a good wall breaker. Maybe something like Waterfall/Crunch/Agility? And one other move of course. Togekiss: How about we go with the hax Flinch set, shall we? You basically just need Thunder Wave and with the support of Air Slash and its high flinch rate, your opponent won't get that much of a chance to attack you. Aura Sphere is fine so things like Tyranitar won't wall you and it's another move to smash down Blissey with. Now, the last slot is open for either Roost to survive for a little bit longer or Nasty Plot for much more power and to have a chance of begin more threatening to walls. Suggest final set: Thunder Wave/Air Slash/Aura Sphere/Roost or Nasty Plot Swalot: To be honest with you, I got no clue why this thing is in your team. I really have never used it before or know anything about it. All what I know is that it can Stockpile well. You already have Slowbro and Umbreon for walling purposes so I don't know what this thing can do. Maybe I can suggest something such as Choice Scarf Porygon-Z for a fast Special Sweeper? If you want to keep Swalot, then I have to look more into his moveset. Rhyperior: You can go with the Substitute set, the Choice Band set or the Defensive Tank one. I say you can just go with a normal one. For moves I suggest Earthquake/Stone Edge/Megahorn. You can try to go with Avalanche if you have fear from Dragons, but then that's why you have Slowbro for. The only other options you really have are Stealth Rock, Roar, Rock Polish or Swords Dance. Hope that helped. Grant, your team is quite god by now. HungryHungryHippo: Will just make another post about your team in the other topic. |
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| bashmo |
i posted my team, survivor any improvments?? | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
kan sum1 tell me how to get a signature like that??? | ||
| Phatkav |
Go to your profile.
Then there is something that says signature. Just put a link of the image you want in between those tags: [img][/img] |
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| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
kk | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
omfg
sum1 send me pm and explain this to me thst i accually understand it lol. |
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| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
nvm i got it yeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 | ||
| bashmo |
nice nice this should prepare you guys for the match soon. | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
ummm im updating minez so... | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
kk i updated | ||
| [VF]Tikuya_Gairen |
Yes im new here so i got Diamond
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| bashmo |
ncie welcome to the clan. | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
grrrr bro i told u no legendz! | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
erm will if bashmo says ok..... | ||
| Phatkav |
Take out Giratina and your team is ok Mesprit and Zapdos are ok and allowed. Whoever says they are not will have to deal with me. |
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| JoJo |
I run
these teams 
But lately this is my team 
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| Badie05 |
Breloom...and Flygon and Salamance...nice party JoJo. | ||
| JoJo |
thanks you =] | ||
| bashmo |
my new team:
Tyranitar Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Substitute, Focus Punch Empoleon Waterfall, SUrf, Aqua Jet, Drill Peck Infernape Fire Blast, Close Combat, Flame Wheel, Nasty Plot Steelix Iron Tail, Dragon Breath, Rock Climb, Crunch Palkia Surf, Ancient Power, Dragon Claw, Spacial Rend Azelf Extrasensory, Nasty Plot, Charge Beam, Dream Eater |
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| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
kool ok ima update my team in one minuite | ||
| Phatkav |
Sigh
This topic was only about grant's team. FROM NOW ON IF YOU POST YOUR TEAM HERE IT WILL GET DELETED BY ME. POST YOUR TEAM IN ITS OWN TOPIC. SO IF YOU WANT TO POST ABOUT YOUR TEAM, MAKE A NEW TOPIC. Thank you. |
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| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
oh lol | ||
| grant_brown |
lol i didn't mind but yea x.x lol | ||
| Phatkav |
Well this is only for your team so I don't want it to get off topic. | ||
| grant_brown |
lol yea well my team si pretty solid now just thinkng of getting a new phys wall | ||
| Phatkav |
Gliscor, Skarmory, Tangrowth, Donphon, Scizor, Rhyperior, Bronzong, Dusknoir, etc | ||
| grant_brown |
yea, i'll use my weezing for now lol and i'll look for another in serebii | ||
| Phatkav |
Well Weezing is god, but against Garchomp, tyranitar, you won't do much except for Will-o-Wisp and stall with Pain Split. | ||
| [VF]Banyu_Gairen |
lol *not posting team* | ||
| Phatkav |
Make a new topic if you want to post your team. | ||
| bashmo |
did that. | ||
| Glassjaw |
Love that new banner Phatkav lol | ||
| Falkien |
wow bashmo's team looks stronger than before 
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| bashmo |
thnx ive been working on it for while. once again congratz. | ||