Badie05
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PC v.s. Consoles
PC WILL WIN ANYDAY!
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Falkien
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NonO WAY console
why do u think microsoft made a console because in the battle between N64 and ps1 pc was nothing
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Badie05
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Let do this professionally. 3 points each:
PC is better because it's more power than PS3
Better graphics in DirectX10
and the ability to add mods for multiple games!
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Falkien
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Pc??PC--> pc games are good for world war games stop with those games already
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Badie05
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Consoles suck compared to PC because they arne't run in a native resolution
You can't have up to 32 players laying cause of bandidth limimts (Battlefield 2)
and there are barely any mod communities!
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Falkien
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corruptpc is getting corrupt with piracy emulators, games but don't forget it is also neccessary for education
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Falkien
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reviews on the runIn reviews on the run that guy not victor lucas the other guys says stop with the world war games say if they do stop look at the popular games for pc EX. company of heroes call of duty
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Badie05
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Console games can also be pirated but isn't that a god thing! 
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Falkien
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Console<PcConsole < PC
you have to realize that PC has a higher rate in piracy.
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Badie05
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Because it's easier. But this is a good hing, isn't it...cough *Darimi*!
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Falkien
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Easier??Graphics-PC
Gameplay-Console(I hate using the mouse)
Control-Console(I hate using the mouse)
More money towards-Console
Opinions=Console
Online play-varies
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Badie05
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I hate to break it to you but the mouse is MUCH more accurate, especially in FPS games. Just wait and see till Shawdow Run from Fasa Studios is released. Live Anywhere enabled will alow PC gamers and 360 gamers to compete against or togethter!
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Badie05
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And it's true, a CON for PC gaming is that Prices range (for an adequate gaming rig) $1,500 -$10,000! About triple the price of PS3! But you get the bng-for-the-buck!
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Falkien
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whatThe mouse is what are u mad
PS2 PS3 controller is perfect well-designed fit unlike 360 and PC accuracy limits
PC is hard for kids to adapt too plus some games involve coding
PC had more cheats than consoles
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FaLlEn.DeAtH.aNgEl
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But...doesn't a PC 'MAKE' the games for consoles also making it for comps?? But I'm in favor of consoles....because there is usually no lag time in games, so unless you have a super rigged comp......then I like console better......RPG's for life!! =P..........
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Phatkav
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Admin defending PC, strange. Anyway, time to debunk some myths animeking have said.
"why do u think Microsoft made a console because in the battle between N64 and ps1 pc was nothing"
Of course there is a reason behind this: they want to make money. Every business company wants to make money in anyway, as long as it's legal. It would be very dumb of Microsoft not to enter the console race considering it's profitable and chances of failing are slim.
"PC--> pc games are good for world war games stop with those games already"
Console also have World War games. You really can't argue here. Call of Duty, Brothers in Arms, and Medal of Honor are all World War games that are found in both consoles and PC. SO I don't see your point.
"pc is getting corrupt with piracy emulators, games but don't forget it is also neccessary for education"
Not corrupting. PC gaming is a multi-billion industry, so it's not getting hurt. You may think that piracy is big, but in reality, it's not that big. How many PC gamers know of piracy anyway? Not too many. How many actually know how to use torrent or know illegal websites? Also not too many. So it's not a big problem. You say piracy is big outside of NA, then I can say the same thing for consoles.
"In reviews on the run that guy not victor lucas the other guys says stop with the world war games say if they do stop look at the popular games for pc EX. company of heroes call of duty"
Call of Duty is also on consoles. Your point is? Also Company of Heroes was a great game. It won way too many awards. Not one magazine or gaming website had a problem with the game being a world war game because the gameplay was excellent for an RTS game and it also had great graphics.
"Console < PC
you have to realize that PC has a higher rate in piracy."
The first sentence is an opinion. As for the second sentence, do you have a proof? Link?
"Graphics-PC
Gameplay-Console(I hate using the mouse)
Control-Console(I hate using the mouse)
More money towards-Console
Opinions=Console
Online play-varies"
Graphics- Depends.
Gameplay- This is pure opinion. How do you determine that consoles overall have games with better gameplay if you haven't played all console games or all the Pc games?
Control- Depends on which game, but mostly a matter of preference.
More money towards- what? What are you trying to say?
Opinions- Just what the hell is this? Opinions of who? You? Gaming magazine?
Online play- PC.
I will talk more about this subject. Be prepared for a longer post.
"The mouse is what are u mad
PS2 PS3 controller is perfect well-designed fit unlike 360 and PC accuracy limits"
Hell no. Many gamers admit that mouse has more sensitivity in aiming lead to being a better controller at FPS games and RTS games. An example is that consoles are crap at playing fast paced games like Counter Strike or Unreal Tournament.
"PC is hard for kids to adapt too plus some games involve coding"
What coding? My 5 years old cousin is good at playing shooting games like Hitman and he barely have an problem with other type of games.
"PC had more cheats than consoles"
Pokemon alone has more cheats than all the PC games combined together. Also from where did you get the fact that PC has more cheats than consoles?
That should be enough for now.
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Falkien
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EraWhen the generation of N64 and PS1 were released that was the biggest battle that time nobody cared about the pc or realized it had games that is why when PS2 AND GAMECUBE came out Microsoft made a console. The profit was horrible for PC back then. Plus you said more cheats look at games that have secrets doors coding games and etc. PC has large amount of cheats. Plus demoes you can download demos on the internet for certain amount of time or forever.
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Falkien
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WhyTell me survivor why is the console generation for ps3, wii and 360 being more refered on game shows<reviews on the run, x-play,cheats> websites even though they talk about pc games or software.
Console is way more popular due to admiring on controllers, gameplay, various sport games and games like Fight Night Round 3 or WWE Smackdown vs. raw 2007 the sequel to 2k6 is in the top-sellers plus:
-->Madden 07 sold 2.8 million(just for PS2 ALONE) on console!
-->Grand Turismo sold more units than any other game it is on console!
-->Mario the most popular franchise it is on console and handheld!
-->Even pokemon sold alot!
Why is it in Japan Microsoft is not popular plus tell me how nintendo continues to focus on gaming for CONSOLE!!!!!! Because they know pc isn't a worthy or competition.
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Falkien
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GAMES OF KIDSFOR games on console there are some games that are ok for YOUNG kids like super monkey ball, pokemon and etc. Unlike other games for PC there is hardly any games rate nicely for kids.
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Falkien
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PCPC games also release on 360. or atleast most of them.
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Falkien
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PC-->EducationPC is needed for education because of that people still by games to have fun for it because of entertainment why do you think consoles now have dvd players to access more entertainment.
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Falkien
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Prove #1According to the book Smartbomb, by Heather Chaplin and Aaron Ruby, the remarkable success of the upstart Sony Playstation worried Microsoft in late 1990s. The growing video game market seemed to threaten the PC market which Microsoft had dominated and relied upon for most of its revenues. Additionally, a venture into the gaming console market would also diversify Microsoft's product line, which up to that time had been heavily concentrated into software.
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Phatkav
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5 posts in a row and none of these posts seemed to be a reply to the long post I made before them. Anyway let's debunk the myths and misconceptions that you have just posted.
"When the generation of N64 and PS1 were released that was the biggest battle that time nobody cared about the pc or realized it had games"
Answer this question: how do you know? You weren't old enough to realize what was happening in the video games industry. Also how do you know that nobody cared about PC? DO you have a proof or something like that?
Now, how can you say PC released games that nobody cared about. Are you telling me that nobody cared about Half-Life, Doom, Thief, Fallout, System Shock, and the Quake series? Then you have got to be kidding yourself. These games were hugely popular and they were well received by the critics. All of these games got a lot of awards plus high scores. These games set the standard for many genres.
"that is why when PS2 AND GAMECUBE came out Microsoft made a console. The profit was horrible for PC back then."
First Xbox and Gamecube released about the same time, so really Microsoft was only competing against PS2. Now you will ask why Microsoft made a console and I will answer you: Microsoft wants to make more money. They saw there was a chance in making money in the console industry so they decided it to take it considering the weak competition. Now you will say PC's profit was horrible and I will answer: where is the proof? How do you know it was horrible. Just because Microsoft released a console, it's not an enough reason. I want to see some sort of sales charts.
"Plus you said more cheats look at games that have secrets doors coding games and etc. PC has large amount of cheats."
Pure BS. Give me a game that has more cheats on PC than the one on consoles. I bet that you can't find one. And what the hell is secret doors coding games?
"Plus demoes you can download demos on the internet for certain amount of time or forever."
How are demos bad? Also consoles have demos too. You can play GTHD which is a console game that hasn't been released yet. So I don't see the problem. Also demos are suppose to stay forever, unless they are for a MMORPG game.
"Tell me survivor why is the console generation for ps3, wii and 360 being more refered on game shows<reviews on the run, x-play,cheats> websites even though they talk about pc games or software. "
Tell me animeking, why shows like reviews on the Run were canceled and why shows like X-Play doesn't take itself seriously?
"Console is way more popular due to admiring on controllers, gameplay, various sport games and games like Fight Night Round 3 or WWE Smackdown vs. raw 2007 the sequel to 2k6 is in the top-sellers"
Admiring on controllers? You have got to be kidding. It has been proved that PC is better than consoles in FPS, RTS, and RPG games. So how do they have good controllers? Gameplay? I told you before that it depends on what game you are playing so you can't really say which has better gameplay.
"-->Madden 07 sold 2.8 million(just for PS2 ALONE) on console!
-->Grand Turismo sold more units than any other game it is on console!
-->Mario the most popular franchise it is on console and handheld!
-->Even pokemon sold alot!"
The Sims sold more than 16 millions units.
Burning Crusade more than 8 million units
Starcraft more than 4 million units if my guess is right
So I don't see your point. they both have great selling games.
"Why is it in Japan Microsoft is not popular"
Microsoft is not popular in Japan for a reason: Japanese hate Xbox 360. As simple as that. They also hated the original Xbox. However Microsoft is popular in terms of selling windows.
"plus tell me how nintendo continues to focus on gaming for CONSOLE!!!!!! Because they know pc isn't a worthy or competition."
You have got to be kidding me. Nintendo making games on PC? Why would they? You know there is a reason behind Nintendo making games on consoles they make. I guess anyone with a half brain should be able to understand why Nintendo makes games on consoles they make.
"FOR games on console there are some games that are ok for YOUNG kids like super monkey ball, pokemon and etc. Unlike other games for PC there is hardly any games rate nicely for kids."
If you are smart enough, you will realize that most kids who play on PC they play free games that can be easily found by a 4 years old kid. Also there are PC games that are available for kids like the Sam and Max series.
"PC games also release on 360. or atleast most of them."
Your point is?
[i]"PC is needed for education because of that people still by games to have fun for it because of entertainment why do you think consoles now have dvd players to access more entertainment."/i]
Not really. The number one reason people buy PC is for internet. Not so much for education. The it's followed by other reasons like education, play video games and watch movies, etc.
That should be enough for now.
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Falkien
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HereLook-The growing video game market seemed to threaten the PC market which Microsoft had dominated and relied upon for most of its revenues. IF you know marketing it was said when Nintendo 64 released it destroyed the PC profits that year. Plus look who the hell are you to talk about gaming for console if you don't have one or if you played it limited time at future shop, or zellers.
"When the generation of N64 and PS1 were released that was the biggest battle that time nobody cared about the pc or realized it had games"
Answer this question: how do you know? You weren't in Canada or States you have no right to ask me this question when you don't know the full heated battle between PS1 and N64. You weren't old enough to realize what was happening in the video games industry. Also how do you know that nobody cared about Console? DO you have a proof or something like that?
For education on PC i was refering to microsoft word and internet.
"Plus demoes you can download demos on the internet for certain amount of time or forever." PC HAS MORE DEMOS for consoles you have to buy them or comes free in magazine."
Tell me animeking, why shows like reviews on the Run were canceled and why shows like X-Play doesn't take itself seriously? Reviews on the run wasn't cancelled i guess you don't know that since you don't have G4TV. X-PLAY doesn't take itself seriously. Adam Sessler and Morgan Freeman don't take themselves seriously. So tell me why they went to Japan when Wii or PS3 releases when no other game show did.
The Sims sold more than 16 millions units. <the total plus console or what>
However Microsoft is popular in terms of selling windows. For education, internet and etc. Why do you think Mac isn't selling as well as Windows because Mac controls are easy and organized but the show CALL FOR HELP said MAC IS BETTER THAN Windows. IF you say call for help don't take themselves seriously then you are the a retard. These people have no life but to help people with tech, computer problems
PC they play free games that can be easily found by a 4 years old kid. Remember that word FREE GAMES PC is expensive but once you buy it the games can be free, illegal downloads, plus piracy for watching movies do you know the rate of piracy is increasing so fast.
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Phatkav
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| Quote: | | Look-The growing video game market seemed to threaten the PC market which Microsoft had dominated and relied upon for most of its revenues. |
You got to be kidding me. Microsoft getting its revenues from software sales? Nice joke animeking. If you actually know a thing about Microsoft you will realize that their profit comes from selling Windows and Microsoft Office programs. Maybe some other programs, but that's mostly from where they get their profit. As for software sales, Microsoft didn't develop a lot of games for PC, they mostly published them. And by the way, they are doing the same thing for Xbox 360. So I don't know from where did youget the idea that Microsoft get its profit from software sales.
| Quote: | | IF you know marketing it was said when Nintendo 64 released it destroyed the PC profits that year. |
Said who? It's a funny thing that you mention Nintendo 64 which was a horrible console. Weak 3d-party supports and weak sales in terms of hardware and software. If anything that came close to PC, it would be PS1. Now you say N64 destroyed PC profit, right? Then tell me, why there are stil a lot of companies who develop games for PC right now? You said PC has no profit, but I still see developers making games for PC.
| Quote: | | Plus look who the hell are you to talk about gaming for console if you don't have one or if you played it limited time at future shop, or zellers. |
Talk about lies. Listen buddy, I played NES, Genesis, PS1 and PS2 weakly. Maybe not daily, but I used to play these consoles more than 10 hours a weak for all excluding the PS2. So don't start telling me that I know nothing about consoles. Also I can ask you the same question, what do you know about PC gaming if you haven't played an quality game on it? What's the last game you played on PC? And I'm not talking about freeware games.
| Quote: | | Answer this question: how do you know? You weren't in Canada or States you have no right to ask me this question when you don't know the full heated battle between PS1 and N64. You weren't old enough to realize what was happening in the video games industry. Also how do you know that nobody cared about Console? DO you have a proof or something like that? |
It's easy to know. There is something called the internet. I don't have to be in Canada or in the States to realize anything. Also I didn't say nobody cared about console. They were popular, but they didn't steal the show from PC. You want to know why? I will tell you. During the era of N64 and PS1, one of the greatest PC games ever released. Games that defined its genres. I dare you to tell me that Half-Life didn't define the shooting genre. Diablo 2 defined the RPG genre. The same goes for simulator games.
| Quote: | | For education on PC i was refering to microsoft word and internet. |
Doesn't changed the fact that many people buy a computer for entertainment purposes or mostly to use the internet.
| Quote: | | PC HAS MORE DEMOS for consoles you have to buy them or comes free in magazine. |
First, I have a question for you: what's wrong with demos? As for consoles you can download demos for them. SO really, you don't have to get it from a magazine. That's why there is something called Xbox Live Marketplace.
| Quote: | | Reviews on the run wasn't cancelled i guess you don't know that since you don't have G4TV. |
I thought it was canceled due to Greedy productions ending their contract, but I guess I missed th e part where they signed a deal with Rogers. I guess I will start watching it on Omni1.
| Quote: | | X-PLAY doesn't take itself seriously. Adam Sessler and Morgan Freeman don't take themselves seriously. So tell me why they went to Japan when Wii or PS3 releases when no other game show did. |
It doesn't. I tried to watch a review for COD3 on the Wii and I couldn't stand it fo rmore than one minute. Also so what? they went to Japan. Many gaming websites like Gamespot, IGN, 1up and gaming magazines like Play, EGM, and GameInformer also go to Japan. SO I don't see your point. Also I rather listen to the opinion of Gamespot rather than a low rated show like X-Play or Reviews on the Run.
| Quote: | | The Sims sold more than 16 millions units. <the total plus console or what> |
Only for PC. the console version sold horribly.
| Quote: | | However Microsoft is popular in terms of selling windows. For education, internet and etc. Why do you think Mac isn't selling as well as Windows because Mac controls are easy and organized but the show CALL FOR HELP said MAC IS BETTER THAN Windows. IF you say call for help don't take themselves seriously then you are the a retard. These people have no life but to help people with tech, computer problems |
What the hell are you talking about? We are comparing PC vs Consoles and all the sudden you start comparing Windows and Mac. Stick to the same subject animeking.
| Quote: | | PC they play free games that can be easily found by a 4 years old kid. Remember that word FREE GAMES |
That's a good thing about PC gaming. It can play high quality games that are better than most console games for free. You want to know one? I will tell. America's Army.
| Quote: | | PC is expensive but once you buy it the games can be free, illegal downloads, plus piracy for watching movies |
PC gaming isn't that much expensive. Piracy to watch movies is nothing. You do realize that popular movies sell more than 10 million units in terms of DVD sales. SO I don't see your point piracy hurting movies. Illegal donwloads has nothing to do with gaming unless you talk about downloading illegal games which is really not that big if you think about it.
| Quote: | | do you know the rate of piracy is increasing so fast. |
Your point is?
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Badie05
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WOW.Such long posts. To put in short:
- PC Gaming is MORE accurate (proof will soon arise from Shawdow Run)
- COnsole gaming is sweet for HD Gaming
- PC Gaming does not have as much commercial games as consoles, but atleast more games are made for quality, not quantity.
- PC gaming is varied by resolution and can be pushed to the limits, unlike consoles!
- Consoles have nice communities (Xbox Live), but LANS and Internet matches on PC Games are MUCH better.
- Not all Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3, games suport VOIP (voice over IP)
- FPS games are WAYYY better on PC (mouse)
- Consoles tend to last for 3 years,while a rigged out pc lasts for 10 years while being upgraded.
-PC Gaming is undoutbetly more expensive than conole gaming
-Consoles are easier to play then PC's
MORE COMING SOON!
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Phatkav
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Let's reply
| Quote: | | - PC Gaming is MORE accurate (proof will soon arise from Shawdow Run) |
No need to worry. The developers already admitted that the PC version had an advantage over the console version and if I'm correct that's why they are giving the console version auto aim.
| Quote: | | - COnsole gaming is sweet for HD Gaming |
Come on admin. We already know that PC have been doing HD gaming for years now. Even before the original Xbox and PS2.
| Quote: | | - PC Gaming does not have as much commercial games as consoles, but atleast more games are made for quality, not quantity. |
yeah right. Half-Life 2, Quake Wars, Doom 3, Crysis are all not commercial games. They both have an equal share of quality games, but PC tend to have more.
| Quote: | | - PC gaming is varied by resolution and can be pushed to the limits, unlike consoles! |
Yay.
| Quote: | | - Consoles have nice communities (Xbox Live), but LANS and Internet matches on PC Games are MUCH better. |
And you forgot something important... mods. How can you forget them admin?
| Quote: | | - Not all Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3, games suport VOIP (voice over IP) |
Never bothered with this.
| Quote: | | - FPS games are WAYYY better on PC (mouse) |
I agree and animeking should also realize this.
| Quote: | | - Consoles tend to last for 3 years,while a rigged out pc lasts for 10 years while being upgraded. |
Correct. Also a good PC gaming can last four years without upgrading.
| Quote: | | -PC Gaming is undoutbetly more expensive than conole gaming |
Not that much if you think about it.
| Quote: | | -Consoles are easier to play then PC's |
Misconception!
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Badie05
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Any one with an argument, bring it here....
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Badie05
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| admin wrote: | | Any one with an argument, bring it here.... |
I see multiple -- quality -- games on the horizon for PC gaming:
- Shawdow Run
- Halo 2
- BioShock
- Unreal Tournament 2007
- Enemy Territory Quake Wars
- Kane and Lynch: Dead Men
And many more...
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Phatkav
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I will give you a list of why you should be a PC gamer in 2007:
Strategy Games:
- Galactic Civilizations 2: Dark Avatar
- Supreme Commander
- War Front: Turning Point
- World in Conflict
- Spore
- Empire Earth 3
Role Playing Games:
- World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade
- Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
- Hellgate: London
- Dragon Age
- Silver Fall
- Loki
- Warhammer Online
- Guild Wars: Eye of the Storm
- Lord of the Rings online
Adventure
- Sam and Max: Episode 2
- Sam and Max: Episode 3
- Sam and Max: Episode 4
- Sam and Max: Episode 5
- Penumbra: Overture
- Myst Online
Action
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
- Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike
- Crysis
- Savage 2: tortured Soul
- Warmonger
Simulation
- Jet Thunder
- Steel Fury
- Space Force 2
- Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line
- Fighter Ops
- The Tomorrow War
- Microsoft Train Simulator 2
- silent Hunter 4
Racing
- Race 07
- FiRST RACING
- Xpand Rally Xtreme
Sports
- Soccer Furry
- Total Extreme Wrestling 2007
Multiplatforms (On Xbox 360 and/or Ps3 too)
- Battlestations: Midway
- Jade Empire
- Bioshock
- Assassins Creed
- Age of Conan
- Unreal Tournament
- Devil May Cry 4
- Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
- Stranglehold
- Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
- Shadowrun
- Portal
- Half-Life 2: Episode 2
- test Drive Unlimited
- Brothers in Arms 3
- Huxley
- Haze
- Alan Wake
- Ghost Recorn Advanced Warfighter
- Halo 2
All of the games I listed above multiplatforms are exclusive games for PC. The one in the multiplatform section are games that are one PC and Xbox 360/PS3.
2007 is a great year to be a PC gamer.
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Badie05
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Very nice list. Pnemnubra Overture is gonna be good (physics wise). Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures should be under RPGs and why is it multiplatform. What the other one? Nice lst overallthough. GRAW 2 is out. BioShock is also multiplatform and will be stunnign! Half Life 2 Episode 2 is multiplatform but began life on PC! WOOT! NICE LIST!
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Phatkav
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Well Age of Conan is coming to Xbox 360. Also all these games I listed are hyped to get a score of more than 8/10 in most gaming websites/magazines.
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rasengan232
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ADMIN MUST BE ON DRUGS!!!!! CONSOLES KILL IT
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Phatkav
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| rasengan232 wrote: | | ADMIN MUST BE ON DRUGS!!!!! CONSOLES KILL IT |
And where is the proof?
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rasengan232
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OMG, here is the proof, almost everyone had a console since the early 1900's. But no one had a computer there except for business men and companies. And the internet wasnt even out until the late 1990's. The games on the PC is great but it is 10000000% better on a console. When playing on a console it has much better graphics, gameplay, controls, audio, and many more. So there is my proof.
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rasengan232
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OMG, here is the proof, almost everyone had a console since the early 1900's. But no one had a computer there except for business men and companies. And the internet wasnt even out until the late 1990's. The games on the PC is great but it is 10000000% better on a console. When playing on a console it has much better graphics, gameplay, controls, audio, and many more. So there is my proof.
THIS IS A VERY STUPID TOPIC WHOEVER STATED IT.....OBVIOUSLY CONSOLE KILLS IT AND IT WILL ALWAYS KILL IT
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Phatkav
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wow, rasangen232, I was expecting something that makes sense, but guess what? You are like animeking in making posts. Useless posts with no facts. i will take each point and explain why PC is much better than consoles. I will quote some stuff you said and reply ot them.
| Quote: | | OMG, here is the proof, almost everyone had a console since the early 1900's |
How do you know everyone had a console? Do yo u have some sort of a statistic that proves that? Also it's impossible because even PS1, the most popular console, not everyone owned it. Only 120 million units were sold world wide, so how is that everyone?
| Quote: | | But no one had a computer there except for business men and companies. |
Oh really? Because according to Microsoft there is about 200 million people who use a PC for gaming. Much higher than what PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube combined.
| Quote: | | And the internet wasnt even out until the late 1990's. |
Your point is? What does the internet has to do with consoles vs pc argument.
| Quote: | | he games on the PC is great but it is 10000000% better on a console. |
Oh really? You are telling me that you can play a real-time strategy game on consoles? Then you got to be kidding yourself. Consoles will never be able to play games like Supreme Commander or Stracraft. So don't even say that.
| Quote: | | When playing on a console it has much better graphics, gameplay, controls, audio, and many more. So there is my proof. |
Much better graphics? So you are telling me that consoles can handle Crysis? Well guess what, it can't? It has already been stated by EA, that consoles can't handle Crysis. Also you know your mighty PS3, the consoles that is suppose to be more powerful than PC, it has been outdated by PC. Before 6 months ago, a new videocard was released that can handle graphics that PS3 can never handle. SO please don't talk about graphics.
Consoles have better gameplay? Oh please. Like consoles are better when you play FPS games. Buddy PC are much better when you are playing shooting games like Call of Duty or Gears of War. So p lease don't talka bout gameplay.
| Quote: | | THIS IS A VERY STUPID TOPIC WHOEVER STATED IT.....OBVIOUSLY CONSOLE KILLS IT AND IT WILL ALWAYS KILL IT |
And I just proved to you that all of your points are myths, misconception or lies. So where is your proof now?
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rasengan232
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Here is my proof. PC IS [mod edit] and Consoles ROCK
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Phatkav
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| rasengan232 wrote: | | Here is my proof. PC IS [mod edit] and Consoles ROCK |
try to discuss more intelligently.
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rasengan232
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huh..lol..... and you are?????
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Phatkav
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| rasengan232 wrote: | | huh..lol..... and you are????? |
At least I'm giving proofs and facts. All what you do is diss.
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Badie05
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I see this WAR is heating up!
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Phatkav
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Re: Prove #1 | animeking wrote: | | According to the book Smartbomb, by Heather Chaplin and Aaron Ruby, the remarkable success of the upstart Sony Playstation worried Microsoft in late 1990s. The growing video game market seemed to threaten the PC market which Microsoft had dominated and relied upon for most of its revenues. Additionally, a venture into the gaming console market would also diversify Microsoft's product line, which up to that time had been heavily concentrated into software. |
Wow, animeking. I guess I will finish your last hope in this arguement. So, that book states that Playstation worried Microsoft? Well they are wrong buddy. Microsoft had nothing to do with PC gaming. They barely even made games for PC. Other then Age of Empires, Flight Simulator, and the Tycoon franchise, they barely had anything with PC gaming. So how did the Playstation worry Microsoft? Also you said Microsoft realied on PC gaming for most of its revenue, and that's dead wrong. Microsoft had nothing to with PC gaming. The only thing that worried it is probably MAC which we all know it failed.
So animeking, up for another fake reason why consoles are better then PC gaming or you will admit defeat?
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Badie05
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I'm getting Halo 2 Vista in 45 Minutes! That's why PC Gaming is better!
$39.99 for PC First Release
$89.99 for Xbox First Release (I'm not bluffing)
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Zaraki Kenpachi
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well Admin the reason it's cheaper now is because it's not new anymore like it was on the x-box and x-box gamers might actually buy it with that price for their pcs even if they already have it
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Zaraki Kenpachi
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well i guess pc wins this war i was always supporting, mouses are so much better than analogs for fps games no offence animeking
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Phatkav
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| Zaraki kenpachi wrote: | | well i guess pc wins this war i was always supporting, mouses are so much better than analogs for fps games no offence animeking |
And in RTS games.
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Falkien
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BackSorry for the lack of posting i was busy
Listen
"Microsoft had nothing to do with PC gaming. They barely even made games for PC. "
PC was failing because of its games. And microsoft's job was to authorize the games that were coming out on it computer programming making sure it is very adaptable and no corrupt data management files. With popular games that released Microsoft sponsered it and became its publiser.
EX. GEARS OF WAR
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Phatkav
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Re: Back | animeking wrote: | Sorry for the lack of posting i was busy
Listen
"Microsoft had nothing to do with PC gaming. They barely even made games for PC. "
PC was failing because of its games. And microsoft's job was to authorize the games that were coming out on it computer programming making sure it is very adaptable and no corrupt data management files. With popular games that released Microsoft sponsered it and became its publiser.
EX. GEARS OF WAR |
What the hell are you talking about? You do realize that Microsoft can't do anything to any game that is released by any publisher or developer.
I will tell you the mistakes you made in that post
First, Microsoft doesn't authorize any games
Second, it's the developer's job to ensure that the game is working properly and has no corrupt data, if that is what you want to call it.
Third, Microsoft never sponsored any popular games. It's called being the publisher of that game.
Now animeking after realizing that your post is full of mistakes, are you ready to start answering my replys and make a decent argument?
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Falkien
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HereWhile it may not be readily apparent, the PC gaming market has several advantages over the console market. First off, while console game players are heavily dominated by teenagers and younger adults, PC gamers tend to be older adults, with the core group in their 30s and 40s. They have more buying power, buying on average 20 to 30 games a year as opposed to the typical console player who buys on average 5 to 10 games a year.
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Phatkav
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Re: Here | animeking wrote: | | While it may not be readily apparent, the PC gaming market has several advantages over the console market. First off, while console game players are heavily dominated by teenagers and younger adults, PC gamers tend to be older adults, with the core group in their 30s and 40s. They have more buying power, buying on average 20 to 30 games a year as opposed to the typical console player who buys on average 5 to 10 games a year. |
First, from where did you get that crap?
Second, you do realize that not all PC gamers are 30-40 years old. Most of the hardcore group is 16-20 years old.
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Falkien
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Firstly, Survivor you can't comment about the disadvantages of Consoles because you don't have one.
Console and portable video games account for $6.2 billion, or 85 percent
You play limited amount of games and don't understand the full value of console games. The console experience varies on games of different types racing, shooting and ex. just by playing a few number you can't literally think PC IS BETTER.
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Phatkav
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Wow, animeking. Can't you think of anything better to post so you have to bash me. Oh well, I will destroy your arguments too.
| Quote: | Firstly, Survivor you can't comment about the disadvantages of Consoles because you don't have one.
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The disadvantages are obvious, so I can comment on them even though I don't have a console.
| Quote: | | Console and portable video games account for $6.2 billion, or 85 percent |
So? PC gaming sales are also great. What are you trying to prove by stating the revenue of consoles and portables?
| Quote: | | You play limited amount of games and don't understand the full value of console games. The console experience varies on games of different types racing, shooting and ex. just by playing a few number you can't literally think PC IS BETTER. |
So you are saying, I only play limited amount of games on PC, correct? And what value does console games have? Also PC gaming has a variety amount of games. So I really can think it's better.
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Falkien
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Computers are also getting a little more user friendly, but eventually every PC gamer will encounter some technical complication, be it a device driver that needs updating or components that are simply incompatible.
The truth is, installing a game on your computer is always a bit of a gamble. You never really know if it's going to work until you're actually playing the game, and even then, in the back of your mind, you're expecting it to crash at any moment.
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Falkien
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Unlike console games, you also won't find many PC games that support two players on one machine at the same time.
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Falkien
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The next generation of consoles may offer more inter-connectivity, more cross-platform games, and may even have VGA monitor ports
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Falkien
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With next-generation consoles making their appearance, one of the most vibrant discussions in video gaming these days revolves around the ongoing platform wars. As far as high-end games are concerned, it is evident that consoles have a growing appeal for both gamers and developers. The PC game market doesn't look nearly as healthy, although it's difficult to pin down because it includes such a broad range of products and revenue models. Many sales figures don't include money made through digital distribution, subscription fees, and micro transactions. Nevertheless, if you walk into a game store right now, you'll likely find a lot less space dedicated to PC games than to any of the consoles, and the sales of triple-A PC titles definitely reflects this.
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Phatkav
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| Quote: | | Computers are also getting a little more user friendly, but eventually every PC gamer will encounter some technical complication, be it a device driver that needs updating or components that are simply incompatible. |
Oh come on. Every PC gamer knows if the game will work on his PC and every PC gamer will know if he needs to update his PC in order to play the game. So that's not a big problem to most PC gamers.
| Quote: | | The truth is, installing a game on your computer is always a bit of a gamble. You never really know if it's going to work until you're actually playing the game, and even then, in the back of your mind, you're expecting it to crash at any moment. |
There is something called "Game Requirements" on every PC game box. So if you don't read that before buying a PC game then you are an idiot. And PC games don't crash, and if they do, then it's the developer's fault, not PC gaming.
| Quote: | | Unlike console games, you also won't find many PC games that support two players on one machine at the same time. |
There are some PC games that have that feature.
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Falkien
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Unlike consoles, PC technology doesn't just stand still between generations. The hardware constantly gets more powerful and the games constantly get more demanding. As a result, many gamers are under the impression that they will need a new system every year or two. In fact, you can extend the life of a gaming PC a great deal longer than that by replacing the video card or adding some RAM, but even then, as your system ages, you will probably have to settle for lower graphics settings.
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Phatkav
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| animeking wrote: | | With next-generation consoles making their appearance, one of the most vibrant discussions in video gaming these days revolves around the ongoing platform wars. As far as high-end games are concerned, it is evident that consoles have a growing appeal for both gamers and developers. The PC game market doesn't look nearly as healthy, although it's difficult to pin down because it includes such a broad range of products and revenue models. Many sales figures don't include money made through digital distribution, subscription fees, and micro transactions. Nevertheless, if you walk into a game store right now, you'll likely find a lot less space dedicated to PC games than to any of the consoles, and the sales of triple-A PC titles definitely reflects this. |
Animeking, can you try to post in your words. You know posts you make and not posts you take from other websites.
The PC game market is healthy. Sales prove that. And most of the time NPD Group doesn't count the digital distribution for PC gaming which counts for one third of PC gaming software sales.
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Phatkav
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| animeking wrote: | | Unlike consoles, PC technology doesn't just stand still between generations. The hardware constantly gets more powerful and the games constantly get more demanding. As a result, many gamers are under the impression that they will need a new system every year or two. In fact, you can extend the life of a gaming PC a great deal longer than that by replacing the video card or adding some RAM, but even then, as your system ages, you will probably have to settle for lower graphics settings. |
Can you tell me why, I can still use my 3 years old PC to play games that are releasing right now?
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Badie05
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I have to agree with that Animeking. But we PC gamers got the benefits. PC gamers had options for HD game options YEARS before 360, PS3 and Wii were even talked about let alone existed. And developers do that to push PC Manufacturers to the limits. I don`t like it though to be honest. My new rig will chew up anything i throw at it (in the highest possible settings) with the highest playable FPS (except Oblivion). Even STALKER was practically maxed out. SO if you got a new rig, nothing to complain about until 4 years later. I`m thinking about an 8800 ultra though... 
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Phatkav
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And to add to that, games on PC that are running on max setting are beyond what any console can do this generation.
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Badie05
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| Survivor wrote: | | And to add to that, games on PC that are running on max setting are beyond what any console can do this generation. |
Exactly. To tell the truth ((not bluffing) I read that the PC version of Oblivion,, when maxed out is wayyy better than the PS3 release. The 360 was the best because it was optimized. PS3 developers are just dumb, that`s all, and now were getting Halo 2 in 4 days!
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Deat401
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i prefer consells even tho they are the biggest waste of money. they usually have better games. and there is a huge difference between carrying a ds and a desk top or lap top to the park
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Phatkav
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But you can't carry consoles too right?
Right now, I'm starting to prefer consoles too. the Wii got way too many good games to miss.
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Badie05
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Wii doesn't have that good of a software lineup at all. Only for casual gamers.
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Phatkav
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That's why I said I want it.
Even though PC got loads of casual games, the Wii ones have a different feel.
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Deat401
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lol weird reason....
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Phatkav
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Well how can you play Wii Sports on the PC? Whata bout shooting games like Metroid Prime Corruption which got a cool control style?
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Phatkav
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After 4 pages of posting, I came to the conclusion that no one will change his mind.
So I will just give up on this debate.
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Badie05
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Halo 3 and Crysis! OMG! OMG!
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Zaraki Kenpachi
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PC will always be better...............but consoles are usually smoother when handling games due to the superior video card and Ip refer most games on consoles due to controls.....the ones I prefer on OC are any FPS,RTS and some RPGs(like diablo...can't be played on consoles...)
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Badie05
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Well, my computer is more powerful than a PS3.
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420
2 GB RAM
640GB HDD
8800GTS 320MB OC
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Zaraki Kenpachi
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but games run smoother on a ps3..........
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Badie05
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No. If it was Resistance, my computer can run it at a higher resolution and faster frame rates. Do your googling and research before saying anything!
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Phatkav
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PC games are custombizable at any settings. SO that means you can run a game at high settings smoothly with a decent 60 FPS or you can run it at Medium setting at 100 FPS.
So there is no difference between consoles and PC.
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Falkien
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Sorry you started this topic, but I gave you the thought of making one after i saw the success GameSpot had.
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Falkien
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wow I went throught this topic and looked at the great topic this was
Anyway PC sucks!!!
As the PS3 will start owning the other consoles around middle 2008-2009 due to technology improvement!
WII, PS3, X360 VS. PC GAMING
I am going with Consoles!
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Falkien
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how could you not make this the official HCG War between console and pc?
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Badie05
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One word. CRYSIS!
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Falkien
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Three Words Super Mario Galaxy
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bashmo
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dudes their both good. Its just that consoles get more attention.
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Phatkav
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Three words: THEY ALL SUCK
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Mikebroekhof
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Online gaming at consoles is strongly limited but there are certainly games which are more then worth buying a console!
Think of HALO!!! one of the best online shooters evah
God of War for PS2 is awesome aswell
Even though the controls are a bit lame at times, every player has this restriction so it stays fair. That's why I don't miss my mouse in console games.
I love consoles and would prefer them if it was easier to crack the games. That's the reason for me to stick to my PC. I use this as media center really so that's a plus for the PC aswell however consoles come closer to this aswell.
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Badie05
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| Mikebroekhof wrote: |
I love consoles and would prefer them if it was easier to crack the games. |
Fully possible. Just PM me after your next Xbox, PS2, Wii, or 360 Purchase 
BTW, online WILL NOT be affected.
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Phatkav
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I feel like typing an essay ranting about my opinion, but too lazy.
Shouldn't this be in the Debates and Disputes section?
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Badie05
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Topic Moved.
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bashmo
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um i would say consoles, just cus their more popular.
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Phatkav
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| bashmo wrote: | | um i would say consoles, just cus their more popular. |
Consoles? What are you talking about? We don't have those in Europe.
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Badie05
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| Phatkav wrote: | | bashmo wrote: | | um i would say consoles, just cus their more popular. |
Consoles? What are you talking about? We don't have those in Europe. |
Actually, the UK (part of EU) has lots of ppl with 360s and Wiis. Not PS3s
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